WIll someone please tell me which page, or Amendment, or even a paragraph of the COnstitution the term “Separation of Church and State” is on?

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  1. This isn’t quite the gotcha question you seem to think.

    The phrase “fair trial” appears nowhere in the Constitution or Bill of Rights; will you therefore assume that nobody is entitled to a fair trial? Of course not – the right to a fair trial is a reasonable description of the rights embodied in the 5th, 6th and 7th Amendments.

    Similarly, while the phrase “Separation of Church and State” does not appear in the Constitution or Bill of Rights, in light of the facts that religious tests for office are prohibited and that Congress is prohibited from making laws pertaining specifically to religion, it is a reasonable interpretation.

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  3. I would argue against it being a “Fair conclusion.” Instead, I would argue that the founding fathers Intended that the state stay out of the Church’s business, but not the other way around. Even the first few lines of the Constitution contains the phrase “by our Creator,” Which means they very much realized there was a Creator and they gave him Precedence over the Constitution or this land it governs.

    I have heard too many people claim, erroneously, that “Separation of Church and State” is in the Constitution when we all know it is not. As of now, nobody has taken that argument all the way to the Supreme court but I look forward to the day they do.

    By the way, THANK YOU for calling me a “Right Wing” blogger. It is a badge of Honor for me. I do question your UK Email address though?

  4. I suggest you read this:

    http://americanlibertarian.wordpress.com/2011/09/05/christian-nation-nope/

    Article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli, signed by John Adams, passed by the 5th Congress:

    ‘As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion, – as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen, – and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.’

  5. James, your argument is duly noted, however there is still NOTHING in the Constitution that has anything about a separation of Church and State.

    The USA has also made many treaties with many peoples of the world, sometimes making claims that are absurd or just plain wrong (morally or factually), in order to make or keep peace or to delay war. I look at this treaty with the Pirates of Tripoli as one of those instances where the President and the very few members of congress agreed on a treaty in order to either delay war or to keep a peace on the high seas for any US vessel.

    Such is the case in love and war. We are still making treaties that are not always honest or the viewpoints of most Americans. If we didnt bend the words and rules occasionally, we would most certainly have gone into a nuclear war with China or Russia in the last century. We are currently in negotiations with the Taliban in order to bring peace to the region of Afghanistan. I doubt that if any agreement is ever won to end this war, that any American would agree to the wording 100%. Treaties with the Arabs in Israel over their proverbial Palestine is one more case where treaties have been reached and agreed on without the approval of the Populous of the American People.

    Again, Show me, in the Constitution, where there is any wording about a separation of Church and State.

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